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Straw Vetoes Iraq Minutes Release

Postby digital_dancer on Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:45 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7907991.stm

'Regret'

Labour MP Tony Wright said it was a cause of "great regret" that the veto had been used for the first time and would reinforce the impression among the public that there was something that ministers wanted to hide.

The SNP described the move as a "cover-up" and said an inquiry was needed so that lessons could be learnt from the "worst UK foreign policy decision in living memory".

"The public feels it was lied to about the reasons for going to war in Iraq, and those responsible must not be allowed to hide from an inquiry," said its defence spokesman Angus Robertson.



Anything other than exceptional use of the veto would threaten to undermine much of the progress made towards greater openness and transparency in government

Richard Thomas, Information Commissioner


More than likely there were never any weapons of mass destruction. Just billions of British tax payers money wasted, AGAIN!
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Re: Straw Vetoes Iraq Minutes Release

Postby TylerDurden on Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:27 pm

> More than likely there were never any weapons of mass destruction. Just billions of British tax payers money wasted, AGAIN!

You're an idiot. More than likely someone CURRENTLY in power just doesn't want to be embarassed by having people quote statements they made which they've since denied saying, or that show them to be the lying two-faced hypocrites they really are.

It's quite obvious that all the information -- not just US intel, but also French, British, and Israeli -- suggested that Saddam had them. Further, to stay in power, all Saddam had to do was to show that he did not by LETTING IN INSPECTORS -- which he AGREED UPON in order to stay in power after he invaded Kuwait. In short, he acted exactly as one would expect of someone who had WMDs.

He did not allow inspections to resume, which suggests that he knew he would not be able to prevent inspectors from seeing what he had, and thought that, after Clinton's chickensh** response to Rwanda, that he might be able to bluster the international community into giving in.

As far as "what happened, then?", there are strong suggestions that the Russians helped him move them into syria and elsewhere.

Finally, even IF he did not have them, Hans Blix, the chief weapons inspector -- himself hardly a fan of the invasion -- has openly admitted that Saddam was all of 90 days from producing Anthrax (or Botulin, I forget) and 180 days from producing the other, as soon as the sanctions were lifted -- and it's quite clear from the fact that he was throwing around literally billions of dollars of "oil for food" money in the U.N., that those sanctions were pretty time-limited.

So it was time to take him out. . He'd violated the agreements which allowed him to stay in power time and time and time again. At some point, you stop ignoring a thug who's violating parole and actually go out and take him down. That becomes all the more needed when he's actually thumbing his nose at the cops.

And if you think his only target would have been the USA, I direct you to consider the July 7th attacks.

Saddam would almost certainly have had them by then. Are you actually stupid enough to think he would not be supplying them to terrorists? The man gave millions to the families of those behind 9/11, and openly stated that that was the duty of devout Muslims everywhere to attack "the enemies of Islam" -- and that's not just the USA, but ALL of Western Culture.


Does it occur to you that, if Spain hadn't capitulated to the Madrid bombings like little bed-wetting toy poodles and elected a weenie government that terrorist groups wouldn't have thought that the same thing would work in the U.K.?

Geez. "Winston Churchill is dead. Neville Chamberlain rules U.K.!!!"

You guys deserve a future of Islamic submission. "Peace at any price" it is.

Your grandchildren will curse you, and spit at the mention of your names.

And they'll be right.
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Re: Straw Vetoes Iraq Minutes Release

Postby Asimov Tesla on Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:41 am

"And if you think his only target would have been the USA, I direct you to consider the July 7th attacks."

Just one of many inaccurate statements within that piece, Saddam may have been a bastard, but he wasn't stupid. There is no evidence whatsoever that he was involved in (or planned) attacks on the west. There is no evidence that he was supplying terrorists, if you believe otherwise, then please elaborate, which terrorists exactly did saddam have dealings with? Before the 2003 invasion Iraq was free of Al-Qaeda thanks to saddams' regime, unlike the west. Saddam gave money to the families of Palestinians who had died because of Israeli aggression, there's no evidence to support your twisted version of that fact, Saddam after Israel would be the last person in the middle east to even consider dishing out cash to Saudi Arabians.

I would love to spend hours deconstructing this piece, but I've gotta get to work, those bills won't pay themselves.

My suggestion is if you want negative feedback, opposing views and scathing critique, carry on posting here.

If you want people to agree with you and to applaude these statements, I'm sure there's plenty of hawkish neo-con forums out there.

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Re: Straw Vetoes Iraq Minutes Release

Postby makryu on Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:35 pm

And curiously his username is TylerDurden... I think I know who is the idiot here...
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Re: Straw Vetoes Iraq Minutes Release

Postby hrmwrm on Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:02 am

digital_dancer wrote:
More than likely there were never any weapons of mass destruction. Just billions of British tax payers money wasted, AGAIN!



MORE than likely? that's funny. remove that part and you have an accurate statement!
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Re: Straw Vetoes Iraq Minutes Release

Postby British_and_Proud on Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:46 pm

And I gather your version of events are to be considered accurate are they hrmwrm? Now thats funny!!
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